Jon Dodson has an 11-year Heroku veteran with him on the podcast this week, Principal Member of Technical Staff Alex Arnell. Together they talk through the native integration of OpenTelemetry in Heroku Fir, the benefits of traces over traditional logs, how they assist debugging, and what’s next for observability in modern development.				
				
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					Jon Dodson
		            
				Software Engineering LMTS, Heroku								            
		    
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			Alex Arnell
		            
				Software Engineering PMTS, Heroku								            
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- OpenTelemetry
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